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I remember seeing this as a kid and thinking, wtf...?!

Well, that was not enjoyable. And I was really expecting and hoping it to be - as one of my favourite films I was looking forward to your usually entertaining insight that has made me an avid follower of your videos. Now I just feel disappointed and mocked, and especially not like I want to explain why I like the movie if there seems to be no intent of understanding the people who do.

Gotta be honest guys, I'm not even a fan of this movie but I've seen how much of an impact it has had on my wife and niece, both who have just terrible fathers and its real. This movie really speaks to some people and you guys honestly were you're worst selves. Genuinely unlikable episode where everyone involved comes off like a jerk.

So Alan, you asked the question why? and then proceed to 1) not listen and get defensive and then 2) you throw up that your two women staff members didn't like it either, like that's some sort of shield. Not one of us believes any of you have to like the movie, not even the women. It's ok that it is not your cup of tea. We are all adult enough to understand that not everyone will like the same things. That said, this was the absolute worst review I feel you have ever done. I won't bother with why because you clearly have no interest. I will say this though, the responses specifically by Alan in the comment section only further the insult to those of us that love this movie.

You should watch a better labyrinth movie, Pan’s Labyrinth 😏

You're going about this too logically. It's a coming of age fantasy for weird girls where the main character has to grapple with her burgeoning sexuality and responsibilities while still holding onto the whimsical things she loved as a kid, as such it's not surprising that two (ostensibly cishet) dudes don't get the appeal

I agree with this comment section and I said this in one of your other videos. You’re not very good with young female lead videos … Be respectful to your audience, be respectful to your Patreons, be respectful to characters that do not relate to you, and bring someone else on who either loves the film you don’t understand or someone who heavily identifies with the topic. This was really sad to watch.

I'm honestly shocked at how many comments are defending this movie. It's crap and I hate it. I still sat through it again a few months ago to give my 10 and 12 year old kids a chance to form their own opinions. Thankfully, they both hated it too! All of that to say, all three of us were cracking up agreeing with this video. Thank you. It was great!

I agree with many of the other comments here. This take on Labyrinth is way more critical than some other worse movies on your channel. Really sad to see a lack of understanding about why people loved this movie. Women learning to transition to adulthood, the 80s music is cheesy and for fans of that era really great. A fun silly adventure movie and you just dragged the propaganist who is learning to be a better person.

This episode makes me want you guys to do any of the National Lampoon Vacation movies. Whenever me or my husband have a goofy moment we tell each other to stop being a Clark

Would love for you all to watch Requiem for a Dream. I feel it could be a good discussion about addiction as well as some of the design choices.

14:45 is the most English scene in the history of cinema

Watching you guys watch this movie is so funny to me. I get excited to see this movie when it's on bc I have childhood memories from this film. Therefore, anything pretty mundane, I look at it with a lens of optimism. You guys obviously didn't want to watch this movie, lol. It shows how you are so annoyed by everything that happens. Your lens in which you are watching is completely pessimistic. Which is ok, it's a weird movie. Also, this movie is about growing up. So David Bowie is her child's imagination. When he speaks about being her slave and letting him rule her. He is asking her never to grow up. Fyi

This was hilarious to me. My college roommate loved this movie, along with a few of my other college friends. So, when they showed it to me they were sure I would love it. After the movie was just me politely trying to get them to explain why they loved it so much. Seeing their enjoyment made me like it a little, but I still didn’t feel like the themes were very developed. It also didn’t help that they thought she had made the wrong decision and should have stayed with David Bowie. They have never made me understand that one 😅

Marlin makes a point of trying to protect Nemo from his disability. But throughout the film, Nemo has no inability to swim well. He's learnt to adapt and not let it hold him back but Marlin is too overprotective of it that he can't even accept that his son is capable of facing the world just like any other fish.

The movie is for teenage girls. You guys aren't teenage girls. The movie does a great job of illustrating the confusion of life's ever changing (social) rules you have to navigate and adapt to, finding comfort in "found family" instead of family of origin, and wanting your own agency to be respected. She wasn't "single player LARPing," she was practicing for a play, maybe an audition or something she's performing for high school - ya jerks

It's entirely possible this was a story about her having an acid trip....

Wow. I gotta say, ya'll painfully missed the mark on this one. I really wish you would have brought in a woman guest on this. It’s just *so clearly* a coming of age story that many of us relate to, and you didn’t even bother to ask why that might be

Labyrinth is an amazing film! It's a deep dive into miscommunication between adults and children, and also the development of children into adults and that journey. On top of it, it was revolutionary in what it did with puppetry and live sets. This movie will live forever in my heart no matter what you say!

Doofenschmirtz and Goofy are no contest, the best(and funniest) dads in disney history

Not my favorite movie getting roasted by my favorite duo 😂😂😂

Goofy has that dog in him. Such a great movie

PS: It is a powerful Jungian archetype for the young feminine to free herself from Demon Lover. My kids are girls, so that might be a resonance.

What an overlap of audio Mom denying that her son has anything to do with his father’s death she can’t bring herself to believe it and at the same time the therapist confirming that is not true the way of the lie that Simba was caring

You guys have never been a teenage girl and it shows. You needed to bring in a guest for this so you could understand what's going on psychologically. When he says "And I've done everything for you" and you say "why"? Demonstrates how you missed the point completely. He's her fantasy. Start from there. This channel is about psychology and your non-analysis is so disappointing. I was expecting an exploration of the teenage girl psyche struggling between her adolescence and moving to adulthood, paired with female sexual desire. You dismiss the whole thing. If you don't understand something, bring in a guest from a different demographic from yourselves or do some research. You are normally on form and I like all of your videos - this doesn't change my opinion of your content in general, but this is the worst quality content you've ever put out.

I don’t really understand why they would think Sarah is selfish and spoiled. She clearly proved that she wasn’t through her compassion towards her new friends. She’s just a girl whose interests don’t really fit with what her parents think she “should” be doing at her age. The parents even shame her for them (Alan and John shame her for them too!), of course she’s going to be a bit resentful towards them for that. And then they claim she’s spoiled while showing a scene of her being upset at finding out that someone invaded the privacy of her room? Her only safe space from societal pressure? Any person would get upset at that. And with Jareth, his character is supposed to make the viewer uncomfortable. It is a literal representation of how older men often prey on young girls. Girls often grow up being taught to always behave (be quiet, never question men), to smile (never show any emotion except happiness), and to be a caregiver to others (put other’s need before your own). Because of this they end up not knowing how to stand up for themselves, or even be themselves. They were always taught not to. Sarah’s “you have no power over me” line is her realizing she doesn’t have to give in to the wants of others. She gained confidence through her journey from her friends accepting her for who she is, and was able stand up for herself. But as helpful as it is to have friends as she discovers this, the claiming of her autonomy is something that she had to do on her own for it to have a meaningful impact on her mental health

I love this movie because I grew up pouring over "Faeries" in which Brian Froud did the art and to see his creations come to life was amazing. Thank you to Jim Henson and company for doing that. I also love Bowie. As a kid who was picked on sometimes, I wanted a friend like Ludo. As an adult I have watched it many times and in the manipulation aspect, it did help teach me to release people who have manipulated me.

In addition to agreeing with all the other insightful comments, I don't think this movie is ugly. I love most of the character designs and think they're cute and lovely

I'm having a really bad week and I really needed something to cheer me up. This did the opposite and made me cry. I usually enjoy watching you guys talk about movies and analyze them. Instead I found you being mean and disrespectful towards the movie that quite literally saved my life years ago. You barely paid attention or analyzed anything. I'm just so disappointed and sad.

My kids who are your contemporaries loved thus movie, but I think it was because of the universal goodwill towards Jim Henson and the Muppets.

I always loved this movie because it is different and weird and David Bowie kinda looks like a Sailor Moon villain. For everything else, please read the comment of aymee12357 and rewatch this movie with a female guest who grew up watching it.

I've watched it lately and still love it. I see it as all the main characters are aspects of her personality. The goblin king is her bratty unlogical side and her saying you have no power over me is her becoming a better person and she doesn't have to shout and react

I'm somehow very disappointed with this video, although I usualy love your content. Hear me out, I'm not a big fan of Labyrinth, heck, I've never really seen the entire movie, only youtube videos on it, so I don't have strong feelings about it. However I know that many people love this movie and your tone almost felt a little...condescending at times? It's perfectly all right to express an opinion and there's nothing wrong with disliking a movie, but being so harsh with your criticism, as valid as it may be in some cases...I dunno, it felt cruel? I imagine that many people who grew up with this film, will be heartbroken and perhaps even hurt when they see your video.

I think you were needlessly condescending in this one. Labyrinth is a non-toxic movie (from 1986!) and didn’t deserve such hateful behaviour. Just tell your patrons if a movie doesn’t float your boat and move on. And it’s not hard to get either. It's a dreamscape-fairytale that illustrates a case of stepping into adulthood (which IS creepy for most and Sarah). She constantly overestimates herself (a vital part of growing up). She learns to be more humble by seeing how difficult things can get and that it's best to work together as a team. That’s how finding your place in society starts and works. Since this is a story about teenage _change,_ she can’t be perfect from the start, can she. All the things are metaphors. E. g. she holds on to her plush like on her childhood. Her parents always give it to her little brother, because he’s the child now. They won’t ask if she’s fine with it for life doesn’t ask if you want to grow up. It just happens. The fire devils are eery, dangerous creatures and play an inhuman game. Peer pressure by people that will harm her (and others) while pretending it’s “just fun and games”. Besides empathy, they lack more than just one human trait, which makes you think. You could go on like that - and I love that about Labyrinth. On the other side, a story about a 16 year old girl that lost her mother in some way and is arguably used by her family. She experiences neglect for her little brother is the centre of attention and she has to cater to his needs each week (we can assume since the step mom didn’t object). Her own needs are judged and shamed for being too different from her stepmother’s expectations, as if that was a bad thing and reason enough to neglect her emotionally. We don’t know if she’s in a play or larping by herself (even if she was, I don’t think it’s fair to laugh about that. Also, it’s a metaphor again. Children and Teens try many roles before they find their place). Either way, she seems to be somewhat introverted, creative and - alone. With nobody to confide in about her anxieties, right in the middle of puberty. So give her a break if she wants to imagine David Bowie in leggings. It’s not like women don’t have to show their boops and butts like that in many movies and nobody bats an eye. "Just let me rule you and you can have everything that you want" is how her family feels for her - AND will come back through society (try joining ANY online game’s voice chat with a female voice for one evening). So it’s not odd it appears in her growing-up-fantasy (or that it comes from the bad guy). Kids and teenagers hear all sorts of wisdom from adults, but they only _get_ them when it clicks. That’s when they grow. That's why she recites the lines with a blank face in the end. She knows they belong here, but only when she _gets it,_ her face lights up. This is where she understands. Growing up will give her independence. She’s stepping into self-efficacy. Power taken back. She starts that by giving Toby her plush. And she has to face the goblin king alone, because technically, all of them are but imaginary friends, that can't help her face what reality will throw at her. They come back for the party, because daydreaming is how she refreshes her mental energy, showing the positive power of her imagination (re-establishing its worth [and her own] after it was belittled by her stepmother before - and science has proven it's a positive power). So. Some like imaginative movies with deeper meanings and rough edges like that, some like their movies polished with a quite short message that’s easy to digest (and done over and over again). I feel like the latter is the norm, so give people like me a break who crave something deeper and more creative. Also, I'm pretty sure we wouldn't have “Mr. Strange and Dr. Norrell” and many more, if Labyrinth wasn't so inspiring to many people. I'd love if you reflected on that in another video, because a "Yea, didn't think about it's importance especially for female viewers" and so on, burried deep in the subcomments, doesn't nearly make up for the image blow you delivered in this without second thought.

Hot take: Teenage girls shouldn't be forced to babysit their infant siblings. From a young age, a lot of women are pressured into taking on motherly roles. Sara shouldn't have needed to be "busy" to not be forced into watching Toby~ he's not her son. Parents who want children should stop expecting their children to raise them and hire actual babysitters. This experience is all too common for teen girls, while teen boys are almost never left alone to change diapers and burp infants. It's a weird, gendered expectation that is (in Sara's words) unfair. As far as why this movie was so popular... It's a fantasy adventure/ romance that served as a sexual awakening for many young, teenage girls. The dark romantic elements were absolutely on purpose. For Sara, growing up meant turning away from her childhood ideals and temptations (like the fairytale king coming to "save" her) and learning that the world is inherently unfair.

I always took it to be that her mother died and that her mother had been a great actress and what she's doing in the beginning is practicing lines because she wants to follow in her mother's footsteps because in her memory her mother is on a pedestal as perfect and frozen in time. It could be that since she's clinging to childhood fairytales and she idolizes her mother that she views her stepmother inherently as the "evil stepmother" trope and herself as a Cinderella type of character being ordered around. I feel like there's a lot of how her attitude comes down to not so much being a spoiled brat as it being the narrative she has told herself to cope with her mother's passing and feeling like the rest of her family has moved on while she's still grieving.

Thank you for this. My husband LOVES Labyrinth. *sigh*

as someone who loved and loves this movie some of the comments here are very funny lmao💀 like maybe thats me but I promise its not ever THAT serious

truly the worst take you both have had.

Part of the reason why I love this movie is because it is something that I watched as a child and thus has that nostalgic factor. I also think that the puppetry and scenery is amazing. In fact, you have to pay close attention to the first scene in her bedroom to understand certain elements: her mother was an actress (and the play she is LARPing is possibly one that her mother played in) who ran away with another man (look at the news clippings - it's David Bowie, so Jareth has this whole other representation as well in her psyche). The characters she meets are based a lot on the toys and books in her room: Ludo is based on Where the Wild Things Are, Didimus is a stuffed animal she has, etc. There is a lot more nuance in this film than you gave it credit for. Yes, she is a spoiled brat, but when you consider what she has been through at a pivotal age (abandonment by her mother, eventual remarriage of her father the birth of a half-brother, all happening around the time she hits puberty) it's no wonder that she prefers to retreat into fantasy to escape the uncomfortable elements in her life. I don't think her relationship with her stepmom is very good (she probably blames all the changes on her -it's easier than blaming her mother, and the stepmom becomes a first time mother to a teenager and is trying to figure that out) and her father seems kind of distant and preoccupied, as any parent of an infant would be! What Sarah needs is some good therapy. I liked what you said, Johnathan, about her letting Jareth in, kind of like a vampire. He represents her growing sexuality which is why she is fascinated and repulsed by him. (I'd also like to point out that Bowie refused to kiss Connolley because she was underage.) For him, she, and Toby, are objects to possess and manipulate. He wants to be "loved," but doesn't really care how he gets that attention. He's something of a narcissist and we see how toxic a relationship with him would be: he will give her everything, but she has to give up everything. Sarah's time in the labyrinth breaks her imagination of the twinkly happy fairy tale and shows that there is a gritty reality; it's uncomfortable because that's what real life is like. Sorry for this being so long.

Very interesting video. I just watched Marriage Story for the first time and this is my first Cinema Therapy video.

I cannot believe how disappointed I was with the commentary. I don’t expect these guys to love every film I do, but I do expect an unbiased and respectful critique. I feel like they didn’t even try because they couldn’t see beyond an aesthetic they didn’t like. Even at the most basic, without trying to enter the mind of a teenage girl, it’s clear that the main character is trying to deal with the trauma of her mother no longer being in her life. Her dad has not only moved on, but is clearly clueless to his daughters needs so she is not getting the emotional support she needs. Just that alone should give you a basis of understanding the main character and gives you some compassion for her behaviour… it’s not just annoying or selfish but there’s clearly things going on that explain this behaviour. Not that it’s ok behaviour, just there’s reasons to it.

On the one hand, I appreciate that you guys gave your honest opinion. It's great that we don't have to sit through praise that you don’t mean. On the other, much more important, much bigger hand, yall really coulda used someone who appreciates this movie for the message so many of its fanbase see in it that yall seemed to miss. This movie's about growing up. It's about the struggle and stress of trying to ride the line between adulthood and childhood. It's got so much imagery that was just missed in this analysis and that makes me sad that yall didn't take the time to seek out another voice who might have been able to explain what you missed.

You guys should definitely do pinocchio del toro it’s definitely my favourite movie of all time, it’s literally amazing and the psychology and the symbolism is so good😭

Where was the actual *Cinema Therapy* content? This vid feels like it came from another channel; you were both too busy having fun making snarky quips to look at the movie with your respective skills and bring the content we're actually here for. Even without the benefit of being the audience for this movie, you missed things you'd normally have discussed in-depth, like Sarah's relationship with her family, the grooming, Jareth's manipulation. The bad guy offers a promise that doesn't make sense and you write it off as being a bad script. In any other movie, you'd have assumed the line was written that way with intention and given it real analysis: the promise not making sense *was the point*, because Jareth is abusive. Nothing from Allen on the practical effects or any cinematography choices: I'd have thought the attention to detail in the set dressing for this, or how they achieved some of the effects with 80's technology would have warranted at least a mention. Or at least tell us how you would have shot it differently. Give us nerd history on the puppetry, the challenge of mixing actors with puppets, anything, some contribution besides snark. The trap of making snarky comments is that it turns your empthy off, and that is clearly evident here. I get that it can be difficult to approach something when the vibe is just so "off" for you, but fives minutes of googling would have given you some background on themes and filmmaking considerations to use as a way in. You could have asked your patrons beforehand what they loved about it. The fact that your editors identify as women and also don't like the movie is not a free pass that this vid was okay as-is; it should have been a sign to **go find someone who DOES like the movie** and get their input. It's not that you didn't like it -- that's fine. But the tone and content of what you've put up here is just... mean. It doesn't seem like you even tried to bring your usual input. There are no helpful takeaways. It's like malicious compliance, okay, your patrons asked you to do this movie and you've technically complied, but clearly resentfully, and in such a way that they'll think twice about asking you do to a movie you hate ever again... If you're not going to honour the spirit of a request, then just decline it. Sorely disappointed in you for this one. I'm not a patron, but I think you owe them an apology.

So many reasons to love this movie. Maybe I'm biased because I grew up watching it with family as a bonding experience, but I adore it and still watch it as a 38 year old and use it with the younger generations to discuss the lessons. Disclaimer re my perspective: I am a cysgender female with Autism and ADHD (though I only discovered this and got diagnosed last year). I have been an inclusive education / special needs teacher for most of my adult life and explicitly teach child protection curriculum and respectful relationships in my classrooms. As a child I adored puppets, theatrics, costumes, the easter eggs, the music, the humour, the dog. We watched it so much growing up, me and my four older sisters. We knew every line and would reenact some scenes and quote the script. We laughed at some lines and how they were delivered, and Jareth's codpiece when we realised it was there. As I got older I realised the significance, the nuance, the messages. Every time I watch it, I discover something new or have another epiphany. We watch with all the nieces and nephews and they have the benefit of us discussing deeper meanings and lessons that we have picked up, and likening it to our own experiences as young neurodivergent girls and women. This is my all time favourite movie. My rebuttals, though many have already made these points excellently (I just have to get this out in my own words!): - Sarah is behaving like a teenager. Yes perhaps a bit spoilt as an only child with privilege, but nonetheless a young teen doing young teen things. - She wasn't 'LARPing' (though absolutely nothing wrong with having a rich fantasy life!). She is actually rehearsing a play (hence the script she is reading and trying to remember). Her mum is an actress and she wants to be like her. She idolises her mum, who is off being a star. - The story is about growing up and understanding power dynamics in relationships. Sarah is torn between childhood nostalgia and the lure of becoming an adult and getting control over her life. She is learning that life isn't fair and it all comes down to balance of power. - She is learning not to 'take things for granted' and to think critically about new information and problem solve (e.g. 1: the worm helps her change her perspective, but also gives well-meaning advice without a reason, which ultimately prevents her from getting to the castle sooner; example 2: the door puzzle). - She is learning about true friendship, different pespectives and viewpoints, how she manipulates and is manipulated by others. - She is learning to protect herself from the dangers of peer pressure (the Fireys) and to navigate abusive relationships (obviously Jareth). - The mythology Jono is querying is that of Faerie Lore. Goblins and other fae have rules and verbal contracts and deals. Consent is key, but they are sly. The Fae are often beautiful, because it's easier to trick and cajole humans that way. Jareth is a Fae King and knows what teenage human girls might be attracted to, so he takes the form of a rock star and his bulge is excentuated purposefully as his masculinity and sexual attractiveness is a type of power that young girls don't know how to navigate yet. (fun fact: Michael Jackson was considered for the role as well). - The play Sarah is reading at the beginning (and the story she is telling Toby at the beginning) is about the Goblin King being in love with a human girl and exercising his power in an attempt to lure her away from the human world and make her his queen.* This is of course exactly what plays out in our film (while also doubling as an allegory for an abusive/toxic relationship) - Jareth may have abducted a baby (pretty normal for a faerie, really) but really wants Sarah as his queen. He takes advantage of Sarah's frustrations with Toby to get his foot in the door. He makes a deal with her that he gets to keep Toby and turn him Fae if she doesn't save him in time (and naturally, if she gets lost in his labyrinth he has effectively abducted her too). He tries all the manipulations he knows of to undermine her and make her feel like her efforts are all in vain. He manipulates who she sees and when, and intimidates them into betraying her. He adds further challenges when she shows any sort of bravado, telling her 'Don't defy me'. He drugs her and tries to make her forget who she is, and tries to get her to fall in love with him. When all that doesn't work, he organises for someone to trap her in her own childhood nostalgia. When she confronts him in the Escher scene, he tries to talk her out of breaking his spell. He reminds her what he can give her if she lets him win. In another classic manipulation he tells her he did everything for her and that he was 'exhausted living up to her expectations of him'. And of course then he begs: 'Fear me, love me, do as I say and I will be your slave' -we always laughed at that line, because come on, like anyone would agree to that nonsense - doesn't Jareth know that he contradicts himself?. But in the real world people actually do agree to such terms. They don't always realise they do, but they do. Her calm, measured 'you have no power over me' was what she had to say to break the spell. And she only remembered the words when she realised her own power. That line breaks the spell because that is the rule for that spell, but it is obviously a significant concept that Sarah has learned about her own power within relationships. So yea. Lots of material here to work with for a nice in-depth Cinema Therapy session. Really hope you read this and take it on board because you guys are awesome and this film is worth your time. *(as an aside, the night after I received my AuDHD diagnoses, I dreamt the Fae had tricked me and had me trapped in their realm to perform for them, I found a way to break the spell and woke up. Since then I can't help but relate my experiences as neurodivergent as something Fae-like. Anyone else had that thought before?)

Man, I am so horribly disappointed in the bad takes about this movie. I’m a 37 year old male and I understand the nuance of this film. Rightfully, you guys are getting absolutely lambasted in the comments. And this one will be no different. The thing so many people are missing up front is within the first scene in Sarah’s bedroom where you see newspaper clippings of Sarah’s mother having run off with her boyfriend, Jeremy (who happens to look like Jareth). So out the gate, Sarah is dealing with feelings of abandonment. Not recognizing that pain is an absolute failure on Jonathan’s part and makes me question his abilities as a therapist. Sarah’s issue with Toby isn’t about “her father moved on”, it’s that she feels Toby is more loved than she is, when she’s already hurt by her mother running off with Jeremy. Jeremy is physically represented as Jareth within the context of the story. You would know this if you had ever bothered to take in what was being shown in Sarah’s room, especially the scrap book where this is shown. The labyrinth was one of the “toys” in her room, along with nearly every other character in the movie. Ambrosious was her dog, Merlin. The goblins themselves represent her inner demons she has to work through. Hoggle is a manifestation of her selfishness that she subconsciously needs to overcome. Ludo was a manifestation of her naivety and vulnerability. Didymus was her sense of duty and guarding herself from hardship and pain. Jareth was a representation of her pain; she had to overcome her feelings of loss, grief, and trauma, thus defeating Jarith. It’s absolutely rich you guys couldn’t even give Sarah any amount of credit for trying to cut Ludo down from the tree. Much like how she felt about her parents, she just can’t do anything right for you guys. She felt bad for hurting Ludo, but she didn’t see a better way to free him. Was she just supposed to leave him hanging? Was she supposed to try to lift him up? Maybe climb him to untie him? She made the best choice she could, and felt bad she had hurt him. What did Sarah think was going to happen? I don’t know, maybe that she was going to help this “beast” and cutting him down was the fastest way to get him down. So even if you took it as “Sarah didn’t consider the consequences”, she was still trying to help and felt bad she had inadvertently hurt someone. Which is more than I can say for you guys. This whole movie isn’t an actual adventure she’s on, this is a conflict within her psyche. Jareth isn’t being sexualized the way so many people assume, the codpiece was a part of the statuette of Jareth on her vanity; she built him up to look like the man her mother ran away with because he was a source of pain; Jeremy took her mother, Jareth took her brother. Alan, Alan, Alan. Buddy. How did YOU not see Sarah was searching for the line she needed to take back her power? She’s looking around, stuck in the same place mentally she had been stuck at from the beginning of the movie until she remembers “you have no power over me”. She has read the line countless times, she’s trying to remember; you’ve worked alongside actors, have you really never seen someone struggling to remember a line without looking at the script? How dare either of you minimize someone else’s hurt because you don’t get it? This whole story can be summed up as Sarah looking for validation, and ended up having to find it in herself. You two owe your fans an apology for your inability to watch this movie objectively and for not putting in a modicum of effort to understand a simple, yet nuanced story and instead shit all over it.

What's to love about Labyrinth? It's Jim Henson's puppetry and world-building at its best. Other than that, the acting, the music, the sheer campiness-- it's so bad, it's good. It's also a different experience for those of us who were young in the 80s because it's a product of the times. It's SUCH an 80s movie. Back then, bad fantasy was the only fantasy we had, a decade and a half before Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter, back when only nerds like me loved fantasy, before fantasy was cool. Every negative comment you guys made about it is spot-on, but still...

I think we remember Bowie and the soundtrack most.

It feels to me like Jonathan and Alan are like the father and stepmother and the Labyrinth fans are Sarah. Your perspective lacks empathy, judging not listening. The movie is bursting with material around your perspective on the inner life of a teenage girl and you maintain the parental perspective. Read the many great comments here and insights into what people take away from the movie or even read the book. Remember that Jim Hanson wanted to convey a deeper message with the movie than David Bowie's costume may convey to you. Maybe you then get what connects people to the movie.